Webmasters frequently try to figure out what factors Google weighs in its algorithm. Two new values, namely trust and authority, have cropped up.
How do you measure these? And are they really more than just buzzwords? These are the topics for discussion on this week's thread. Be sure to stop by and
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lewisdb How to measure trust and authority from Google
I have been thinking about this a great deal lately and am afraid that my lack of brain power is really getting in the way.
We all talk about trust and authority when considering Google rankings but how on earth do we:
1. quantify this
2. identify this
3. obtain this
I know the obvious answer is links, but how exactly do we target links from trusted authority sites when it's impossible (in my eyes) to determine exactly which sites Google trusts and which sites are considered an authority?
My thoughts are that a great deal is to do with a site's ranking.
If a site ranks highly for its target terms then Google must trust that site to some extent? Do more top 3 rankings mean more trust?
Similarly with authority. Does Google judge authority by the number of terms a site ranks for, and how many other sites that also rank link to that site?
I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this!
JVRudnick
RE: "...it's impossible (in my eyes) to determine exactly which sites Google trusts and which sites are considered an authority..." lewis....here's my thought on that specific thought....
IMHO, Google must believe that say a .edu site -- a higher education/learning institution, would be by definition, a "trusted authority" site. This stands to reason to me, and is logically sound to me as well.
That's not to say that Google DOES this....but I've no other means to run my SEO practice, than to make some "reasonable" conclusions....and this one one of them.
That said, I also believe that Google must somehow (algo functionality variations suspected here) also "vary" the links coming from a .edu to a degree, in that if a site is NOT penalized SERPwise by incoming links, as they can not be controlled by the site owner, somehow Google MUST do exactly that for an incoming link from a .edu. This is contrary I do realize to what's the normal conclusion....yet I think that it just MUST be true...
This is reasonable to my way of thinking. This also, may not be truthful, yet for my client lists when I can get a .edu link to a site I SEO, I'm always smiling that day as I subsequently do see a rise in SERPs...ie empirical evidence appears to support that thought....
So....others here, can you offer up any further thoughts on this?
steviewilkie
This is such a great question it's got me thinking "Why hasn't anybody asked it before?" and if everybody pitches in, we could all save a lot of time going after the right links.
My view is:
If a site has sitelinks for certain terms, it is usually a sign of trust. Obviously the more competitive the term, the more trustworthy the site. Starting with exact match domain going up to one word keywords.
If a site is picked up by Google News. I was searching today for currency information and the difference in the quality of results between Google Search and Google News was outstanding. Google knows if it is to be the #1 news search it had better keep a watchful eye on who it aggregates from.
Backlinks from obviously trusted sites. Harvard, Yale, BBC, NYT, WSJ. But going further than this, the closer the link to the index page, the more trustworthy IMO.
Academics and newspapers are like a corporate hierarchy and the
same must go for the website. A link from harvard(dot)edu/xxx/xxx/xxx/xxx
may mean one professor agrees with your site. A link from harvard(dot)edu/xxx
may mean a whole faculty agrees with your site. At every / closer
to the index, more people have the chance to question why the link
is there and makes for a more editorial vote that passes authority
of the institution rather than one small part of it.
Which is why I believe backlinks from a student blog located at subdomain.harvard.edu/studentid/blogname/blogpost are of little worth when it comes to passing authority; no matter that there is a .edu in the URL.
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